i donno but that whould be awsome....i would just use a porable one that gose into the 12 volt

 

I have some of them little compressed air tube like you use in bb guns to air up my tires

The other day there was a topic about valve stems, and this is a picture where you can buy a hose and an adapter that hooks to your exhaust to air up a tire



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i have the tire repair kit by ac comes with plugs patches and co2. have not had to use yet knock on wood.

 

I bought one of these from Walmart. Around the same price. Used it a few times on the trail. I would never be without it.
http://www.campbellhausfeld.net/webapp/wcs...tegory_rn=10643

 

I've use those CO2 inflators as well but have found that you need 3 of them to inflate a 26" mudlite to 4 psi, plus one to find the hole/leak. Then you use 1 - 4 on your buddies flat becuase he didn't have anything, now you need to find a place to carry your case of spare CO2's.

As for the exhuast pump..... I would need to see it work before conviced! Meaning.... If I place any pressure over my exhuast outlet the engine starts to die! And I feel it would be the same outcome trying to force all that exhuast and pressure through a straw! JUST A THOUGHT!

 

I carry a small 12v air compressor from Ace Hardware. $19.99 and it works like a charm! :thumbsup:

 

I've used my CO2 inflater, works great and is really compact.

You need more volume than what your bumper has to make tank.

 

I carry this just in case:

http://www.slimesealant.com/moto/index.php

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Originally posted by V2Rocket@Apr 10 2006, 06:44 PM
I carry this just in case:

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I love slime, have it in all my tires. The 12v pump is the way to go since you already have a 12v outlet.

 

12v Campbell-Hausfeld from Walmart...took it out of case for compact storage on ATV.

 

just a hand pump for me easy and simple

 

I have a 12 volt compressor also, mine is from Crappy Tire (Canadian Tire), not sure who makes it but it works real well. I am very interested in the exhaust pump though, and beg to differ with your opinion.

If a tire is completely flat, I don't think it would be like plugging the exhaust, there is still some where for that gas to go to. I could see once the tire is extremely full of pressure, but when flat or low I don't think it would stall out the bike. I'm no engineer though, anyone else offer opinions on this.

Maybe Shotgunred will speak up and let us know if he has tested it out before....

I dunno I dunno

 

Originally posted by Wildwest@Apr 10 2006, 01:01 PM
Ok.... Your crusing down the trail miles from camp, and notice your Left rear tire is loosing air due to a puncher, and you are soon to be riding on the rim!..... You have tire plugs which you use to fill the hole and stop the leak, but... you have no way to air up so you can continue your ride! SCREWED!

What do you guys carry to air up on the trail?


This topic is inspired by an idea I have been pondering, of turning my rear bumper into an air tank! Like they do in the off road Jeep word.

Any thoughts?
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sounds cool - if you do make sure you get a patent and sell it to cat :thumbsup:

 

I use the CO2 things, carry a number of them so I won't run short.

Here's something to consider and I'm willing to bet many of you have experienced this. The trend in 12V portable compressors is high pressure - bigger is always better, right? They all want bragging rights. 250-300 pounds is almost the norm these days and I saw one the other day that went to 350 pounds. Well, guess what. In order to achieve that amount of pressure the piston in these pumps is very small. Very little air volume is ejected with each stroke. Because of that it takes FOREVER to pump up a quad tire because a quad tire holds a lot of air.

For a quad application look for a pump with the lowest pressure rating you can find. I'd love to have one that only pumped to 50 pounds max, but I don't think they even make them. That would mean a larger piston, longer stoke and much faster filling and most importantly - less drain on the battery.

 

Originally posted by Wildwest@Apr 10 2006, 02:48 PM
I've use those CO2 inflators as well but have found that you need 3 of them to inflate a 26" mudlite to 4 psi, plus one to find the hole/leak. Then you use 1 - 4 on your buddies flat becuase he didn't have anything, now you need to find a place to carry your case of spare CO2's.

As for the exhuast pump..... I would need to see it work before conviced! Meaning.... If I place any pressure over my exhuast outlet the engine starts to die! And I feel it would be the same outcome trying to force all that exhuast and pressure through a straw!  JUST A THOUGHT!
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That’s my exhaust pump. It works fine. You just have to let your pipe cool down for a few minutes first. The trick is to fill with half throttle. You don’t want it getting to hot as you have to unscrew it from the tire while the atv is running. It will put out over 6 pounds psi. I like it because it is compact. Remember it’s not for every day use just trail emergency’s.

I also have co2 but you seem to need several shots to get pressure in your tire.

I am pretty busy for the next several days but sometime this week I will flatten out a tire and time how long it takes to blow it up to at least 4 psi.
Yes I will take pictures. Its probably going to be on Saturday.

 

Hey, instead of using the bumper, could a guy use the frame itself? You'd have more air capacity, and if you lose pressure you'd know you have a crack somewhere. Would that work?

 

Sanny, how many different pieces of tubing are there in a Cat frame? and are they all sealed? Just a thought, I like to play devil's advocate. I'm thinking of making a bumper out of 2" pipe, wonder if that'd be enough volume.
JD

 

That's a good question Kancoyote. I don't know much about the frame at all, so I don't even know if my idea was worth 2 seconds of consideration or not.

 

Personally I don't like the idea of storing air in the frame or bumper. To get the volume of air you need in there, you'll have to have it under significant pressure. A small crack and boom. Would be like riding an moving land mine in my opinion.

 

If you put 10-15 psi in there you think it would cause an issue if it cracked? I'm not disputing your claim...I honestly don't know.

 

Anyone here had the frame out? How many pieces of tubing we talking about? If pressurized, would the frame be more rigid? I'm betting if it were and you managed to crack the frame, it wouldn't go boom, but it may make the crack worse. Just my .02.
JD

 

Originally posted by Sanny651@Apr 11 2006, 07:59 AM
If you put 10-15 psi in there you think it would cause an issue if it cracked?  I'm not disputing your claim...I honestly don't know.
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Anyone here had the frame out?  How many pieces of tubing we talking about?  If pressurized, would the frame be more rigid?  I'm betting if it were and you managed to crack the frame, it wouldn't go boom, but it may make the crack worse.  Just my .02.
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Yea I'm not sure guys. But at 10-15 psi, you are going to have to have a vessel that is close to the same size in volume as your tire to hold enough air to get your tire to the 5-8 psi range. Once the pressure between the 2 equalizes, you're done moving air. The higher the pressure of the storage vessel, the more air they contain. For example, look at how much those little CO2 containers can inflate, but they are probably under several hundred PSI of pressure.

Would the frame crack and split rather than go boom? Yea, you're probably right, but regardless, I don't want to be on it. I've read too many horror stories of pressure vessels erupting. I think I'm going to look for one of those Cambell/Housefields like above.

Jay

 

what we use and it works great is just a smaller version of the co2 tank we use on our rock truck. go to a fire extinguisher place and purchase like a 2.5 or 5lb. tank with the valve, have it filled and there you go. these work great because they can also set a bead if it rolls off on the trail, and we also run a 3/8 impact with it for quick trail repairs. not the cheapest way, but diff. a great toll to have.

 

Originally posted by jodyfj40@Apr 11 2006, 11:19 AM
what we use and it works great is just a smaller version of the co2 tank we use on our rock truck.  go to a fire extinguisher place and purchase like a 2.5 or 5lb. tank with the valve, have it filled and there you go. these work great because they can also set a bead if it rolls off on the trail, and we also run a 3/8 impact with it for quick trail repairs. not the cheapest way, but diff. a great toll to have.
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How about paintball gun tanks? That would probably work.

 

Frame tanks???Bumper tanks??? You guys have way to much time on your hands. Even the bottles sound a little excessive to me. You just need to be able to air a tire up. How many people dont have a 12v accessory plug? I have used mine several times and find it hard to believe anything else could be easyer.
I have aired up 28" bugs. Motor cycle tires and a pick up tire while mounted on the truck. No problems. And all for only 8 or 9 bucks.
But hey! what do I know? If anyone is enterested I have a bent frame you can experiment on. You pay shipping and it's yours slaphappy

Thats all I have to say. I am all out of air :rofl: