First off I'd like to introduce my self, I'm new to here and figured I'd join to share my stories, knowledge, and get others input as well. But onto the question: I've finally gotten the "OK" from the wife to get a side by side. I have it down to the Stampede and the Havoc. The wife of course would rather me go with the Stampede as it's priced a little cheaper and I of course want the Havoc. We have acreage and what ever we get will be used for light work on the property but we will definitely be taking it up in the Colorado mountains with the father in law's Honda Pioneer. I have not done any test rides in either one which I'm not sure I couldn't get the full affect of either one in a parking lot. Anyone have experience with the Stampede and or put the Stampede up against the Havoc. Clearly the havoc should handle better but how is the Stampede?