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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wolfeman5 @ Jan 25 2007, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Well if I just wanted new tires because I needed more traction or whatever I would agree. My whole point is that they were defective when I bought the machine. It is not a point of them not having enough grip or a deep enough lug it is the fact that they were DEFECTIVE TIRES AND SHOULD BE REPLACED. If Arctic cat replaced them with the same tires I would be happy.[/b]

I agree 100% .. you pay between 10-15k for the product and Cat made the decision to run with a defective/bad tire ... and they are defective for the rims they were made for make no mistake, there is a nation wide bulletin in Canada to take care of the customer with a Carlisle badland issue, so my dealer said last month when I replaced mine with mudlites ... does that mean replace, if necessary but most times they simply remove,clean, and remount unfortunatley

 

[JandJsTA]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (650 Crazy Cat @ Jan 26 2007, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Well here is my opinion on the Carlisle Badlands tire issue. I've had 3 bikes that came with them stock. 04 500, 05 500 and 06 H1 I only had problems once with not holding air. Popped the bead and it had some dirt in it. I have a set on heavy duty tires for aggresive driving and always kept my Badlands on on set of Steal wheels. I now have only the Bighorns. I wish I had kept the Badlands for the Ice and Snow and Sand as NO tire I've seen or had goes better in these conditions. Not Bighorns or Mudlights or 589's or Vampires. Just My Opinion.[/b]

I have noted that the badlands were better in sandy ground for traction then the mudlites, and do still have mine, but would never put the fronts on again, the backs maybe. My brother inlaw and I both bought 06 TRVs at the same time and we both had problems with the bead leaking in multiple spots around the wheel on the front badland XTRs.

I have not had a problem with the mudlites on the stock rims/wheels since changing to them, I believe the rims/wheels are not the problem.

 

[JandJsTA]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Barnzilla @ Jan 26 2007, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Oh and by the way guys, I think they're listening about the Carlisles. My bro's 07 came with Dunlop QuadMax Tires, a lot better looking tire than the Carlisles.

Here's the new tire:
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They look similar to the mudlites .... good move on Arctic Cats part