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Old 05-14-2019, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
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400 Flasher circuit

My quad is a 2006 Massey Ferguson 400 auto 4wd single seat, which I understand is a re-badged Arctic Cat 400. How do I know if it's an FIS? There's so many abbreviations to identify the different models. Mine has three diodes and three relays in the fuse box if that's any help.

Anyway, my question is, is there a wiring diagram that includes how the indicator circuit works? All the wiring diagrams I found don't mention the indicator circuit. The best wiring diagram I've found so far is the 400 FIS AUTO one on page 8 of the 2006 ATV/UTV Wiring Diagrams on countrycat.com

I'm trying to figure out why the indicators won't work - I've replaced the 3 pin flasher relay, and checked the connections underneath, to no effect, but it's hard when you don't know where the wires are going. Thanks

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Old 05-14-2019, 06:46 PM
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FIS is for fully independent suspension. Youíll have two rear axle shafts and upper and lower control arms on the rear.
I take it youíre in Europe if you have signal lamps. We donít have that in Canada or the USA. Might be hard for us to help you.

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Make 100% certain that you have good ground at each light assy. That tends to be the biggest plague to anything with turn signals throughout the power sports industry over the years.

If lights are coming on (but not flashing/blinking), itís either mismatched watt bulbs, or flasher relay itself. Usually, mismatched bulbs do flash, just at offset paces from R to L (but not always like I mentioned previously)

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Well, it's not FIS then, the rear axle is solid between the back wheels. It makes it weird going around corners, but I'm getting used to it.

I'm in the UK, we have indicators here. you don't in Canada?
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The diagrams we have do not include the turn signals as Canada and US don't require them. I have added an aftermarket set on my machine because with a project in north central PA is opening a lot of secondary roads to ATV usage to link different trail systems. Since we will be interacting with vehicles and most probably don't know hand signals, I added the turn signal kit to our machines.



What I did different then the video is I tied power for this system into accessory and not directly off the battery. I also did not use the on/off switch on the controls. Taillight also was not needed, and I did not install the plate light.



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Itís weird when cornering as these are not limited slip differentials. Pavement will wear out tires more and it tears up the grass and dirt. In Canada and the USA itís illegal to drive on the road. Some small towns may put up with it, but itís still illegal.

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Some small towns may put up with it, but itís still illegal.
St. Helen, Mi. MANDATES that when within city limits, that all off-road vehicles are to be ridden on the streets. Dune buggyís, ATVís, dirt bikes, side x sides, etc, etc, etc..... during non-winter months.

If caught riding off the streets, ticket is issued. Maybe elsewhere itís illegal, but definitely not that town. And itís a Mecca for summer off road riders with its location and terrain. Easily thousands of riders descend upon it during typical weekends, let alone spring/summer/fall holiday weekends.

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Itís weird when cornering as these are not limited slip differentials. Pavement will wear out tires more and it tears up the grass and dirt. In Canada and the USA itís illegal to drive on the road. Some small towns may put up with it, but itís still illegal.


In Clearwater county it is legal to drive your quad on the secondary roads.
There are a few other counties in Alberta that it is legal.
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St. Helen, Mi. MANDATES that when within city limits, that all off-road vehicles are to be ridden on the streets. Dune buggyís, ATVís, dirt bikes, side x sides, etc, etc, etc..... during non-winter months.

If caught riding off the streets, ticket is issued. Maybe elsewhere itís illegal, but definitely not that town. And itís a Mecca for summer off road riders with its location and terrain. Easily thousands of riders descend upon it during typical weekends, let alone spring/summer/fall holiday weekends.
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In Clearwater county it is legal to drive your quad on the secondary roads.
There are a few other counties in Alberta that it is legal.
Thanks for that info. We learn something new everyday.
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This first shot is just a general overview of St. Helen... there are trails leading to every corner of the state (short of maybe the Metro-Detroit and Lansing regions), the second shot shows just some of the state where off road fans are a major part of any towns economy. I ❤️❤️❤️ The Huron National Forest!!!

Sand and loamy black dirt abound throughout the trails throughout the state. The legality issue in St. Helen began all related to a dust control issue. Seems a business owner there wanted to ban all atvís and such, as his cleaning business was adversely affected by all of the off road fanatics that convened on the town.
The COC said no way (would have bankrupted most if not all of them), so they settled on paved roads for off road traffic travel when within city limits.

Years later, this very guy (original plaintiff) is a close friend of not only my widowed ex-boss ďConnieĒ of decades ago, but myself as well, go figure... 🤣

Anyhow, back to topic, sorry 55555, for my short hijack of your thread.
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