Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Conover, Wis.
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Sled: 15'ZR8000 LXR, 74 Panther
Except for the ThunderCat, all 7000 and 3000 four strokes cancelled. This to me looks like Yamaha is cutting and running. Kymco was just supplying the ATV motors and it didn't work out. Lets just sell the four stroke with the largest mark-up strategy! I see now they could be slimming things down before Yamaha says "Sayonara". I think one big mistake is cutting the trail sled line up down to basically two sled platforms, (actually really one) is a big mistake. Where is my "LXR" type platform? No nice riding LXR type chassis, for the weekend trail rider like we are (my group) just higher cost "SnoPro" type suspension packages. This makes me think the 2014 to 2017 chassis groups will hold their value long because (now) people like me are going to hang on to them longer, I know now I sure will. And I will also start looking for a non-turbo 7000, while I still can get one with low miles. Another thing, no 129's? Really? Ski-Doo has a 129 line, Polaris has them and even still has a 121, altho I don't know why the 121. Ok to start with nothing here That Arctic Cat now offers will fit in my trailer. Now to be fair on myself I'm selling my short enclosed for an in-line anyway but what about the buyers that have a trailer like mine that isn't selling their trailer? What do they do? Do they go to Ski-Doo or Polaris? Cutting the touring sleds down to one Suzuki Fan-cooled as mentioned is cutting the whole segment out of the market (albeit a small one) I really didn't see how the NA Yamahas were as cost effective as a two stroke (Yamaha found that out) and to keep them at more or less the same price level didn't think was gonna work. The four stroke 3000? Well that went in and out the door faster than my wifes little dog taking a $hit outside on a below zero day!
In summary, I sure hope Kroms hunch is correct that something more MUST be coming from Thief River Falls.
Cause if there isn't then this cost cutting is what parent companies do right before they spin off a subsidiary they see it as a waste of money. The "one model Yamaha" sled is another eye opener. Why? Because they cost more to make than the profit , or lack thereof, it gets in return. Why just basically hi-performance sleds in ProCross line? Why? With all the hype and great handling when introduced, and still better than the competition in my opinion, do we slim this down to basically two models? Why Why Why??? Why cancel out just about all the touring sleds and have as a sole "place-holder"a Twin Spar designed back in 2007 with a Fan-cooled Suzuki? Why are there no prices in the website? All three competitors still have theirs.
I hope not, I really really hope not that there are little if any steam clouds coming out of the stack pipes in the main plant in TRF. But something is up, and it sure ain't the temperature.
Owning a Thundercat is like having a totally hot wife..... All of your friends want to see it, feel it and check it out..... They all want to know what it is like to ride it, but if they only knew how much time and money it takes to keep one up, they would call you a fool!
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"Of all the 850 vs Sidewinders/Thundercat/ZR 9000's; you are the first I have ever heard that beat one. I know the 850 is strong but it's down 30 hp from the turbo sleds.
I have a low slung fully built( by a well know engine builder) 3 cylinder 800 cc that made multiple dyno pulls over 200 hp on a calibrated Land and Sea dyno and I barely pull my buddy on his stock Thundercat. And I do have video."
Things on NASA headphones that are not good;
"That supposed to be like that?" "What the hell was that?" "Did you just pee in your spacesuit"