 Opinions on SmartStraps, * UPDATE* Now goodyear question |
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 Nov 2 2009, 08:31 PM
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Winter sucks!!!
Group: Team Arcticchat
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Joined: 18-October 07
From: Woodland Park, Colo
Member No.: 21703
My Location: BrokeBack Mtn., Colo.
Your Age: 52
Your Sled(s): trash can lid behind the Dmax.
07-08 Mileage (Sled): 1/4 mile, then lid hit a tree.
Your ATV: 400 auto
2007 Mileage (ATV): 500
2006 Mileage (ATV): 3500
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Im now looking at the goodyears, but need to know how short they will go? The Smartstraps I would have kept, but the design wont allow them to go short enough. Ideally, I need about 12" but 18" will do. Looks like the goodyears are a good strap for the money. Will the hooks fit around the frame tubes okay? Thanks for all the input guys! (Besides, what else you guys have to comment on?)  AG, Im still going to work on a chain system for at least one of the quads.
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Our club, CMTRA,,fightin to keep our trails open! http://www.cmtrail.org/06 AC 400 auto FIS LIME GREEN. Speedwerks full kit with a few other mods Color matched SS106 wheels and rear rack,no front rack 07 AC 650H1 Lime workin on mods now. 02 KTM 520 EXC Unfortunately,,we have to comply with designated routes,,no more free for all, dang it!! http://staythetrail.org/
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Nov 2 2009, 11:29 PM
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Member
Group: Team Arcticchat
Posts: 21
Joined: 21-October 09
Member No.: 39499
My Location: Southern, MN
Your Age: 35
Your ATV: 07 650 h1
2009 Mileage (ATV): 1000
2008 Mileage (ATV): 500
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QUOTE (A G @ Nov 2 2009, 11:40 AM)  Ever considered something other than what everyone else is doing?
Might not too much of a price difference between top quality heavy-duty ratchet straps and DOT transport grade 70 chain and automotive axle straps.
There's a 12-ton lever-load binder on the front (barely visible). They can be found on sale at Princess Auto for $12 - $15, but you might not need one. 10-ton axle straps were $5 each (also on sale @ PA). The 5/16" grade 70 chain was on sale for $2.50/ft.
When straps get crapped out, you have to spend more money to replace. Chain & Load-binder are for a lifetime... A one time spend. Axle straps may not last as long though, but are still cheaper than conventional ratchet straps.
It's my quad on that trailer, I'm almost 100% sure it isn't coming off even in an accident! That's not overkill, it's cheap peace of mind.
Takes a minute or so to put on or off, same time as conventional straps.
I gave up on the conventional straps... Only thing I use them for anymore is strapping junk onto the trailer for a trip to the local dump.  Two thumbs up to this set-up. Strap to the un-sprung, let the bike do what it wants, just keep the tires on the trailer. I overkill on my straps, I think there 3" wide and I strap from the front of the bike to the rear of the trailer and vice-versa, this lets the bikes susension work and not jerk on the straps. I had mine on the back of a trailer, strapped straight down, with the big straps and the suspension sucked down and still had one come un hooked. Luckily we were just pulling into a gas station wihen it decided to roll off the trailer.
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Nov 3 2009, 12:59 AM
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From: COLORADO
Member No.: 37242
My Location: Elizabeth, Colorado
Your Age: 40
Your ATV: 2005 400 4x4FIS GM LE
2009 Mileage (ATV): 300
2008 Mileage (ATV): 400
2007 Mileage (ATV): 500
2006 Mileage (ATV): 700
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QUOTE (400crasher @ Nov 2 2009, 10:51 AM) I have seen those pics before and I really like the setup. I may do something like that
in the future. I just started using a flatbed this season and needed some quick extra tiedowns for this weekend. I am defenitely paranoid enough to have a solid setup, as I havent used a flatbed before, and dont like it. I also dont have any rails on the sides and back, which makes it worse. Thanks for the input gang! if the flat bed is yours, how about attaching sections of chain the the side at various locations. this will give you several spots to hook the straps to for all types of loads. just remember how i did mine, frank.
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26x9x12 & 26x12x12 Goodyear Mud Runners, ITP type 7 powder coated black
snorkel system using 2" o.d. exhaust tubing
K&N air filter w/ prefilter
Dyna-jet kit
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Speed Werx Slip-on
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Nov 3 2009, 09:44 AM
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Winter sucks!!!
Group: Team Arcticchat
Posts: 2450
Joined: 18-October 07
From: Woodland Park, Colo
Member No.: 21703
My Location: BrokeBack Mtn., Colo.
Your Age: 52
Your Sled(s): trash can lid behind the Dmax.
07-08 Mileage (Sled): 1/4 mile, then lid hit a tree.
Your ATV: 400 auto
2007 Mileage (ATV): 500
2006 Mileage (ATV): 3500
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Thats what Im thinking, bolting some chain to the trailer to connect directly to the atvs, and using straps to sinch them tight. The chain will be a backup to keep them on the trailer in case I snap a strap.
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Our club, CMTRA,,fightin to keep our trails open! http://www.cmtrail.org/06 AC 400 auto FIS LIME GREEN. Speedwerks full kit with a few other mods Color matched SS106 wheels and rear rack,no front rack 07 AC 650H1 Lime workin on mods now. 02 KTM 520 EXC Unfortunately,,we have to comply with designated routes,,no more free for all, dang it!! http://staythetrail.org/
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Nov 3 2009, 01:07 PM
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Plowboy
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From: Marlow, OK
Member No.: 26991
My Location: Marlow, Oklahama
Your Age: 38
Your ATV: 2006 Arctic Cat 500 auto 4x4
2009 Mileage (ATV): Not enough!
2008 Mileage (ATV): 900
2007 Mileage (ATV): 1000
2006 Mileage (ATV): 650
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QUOTE (400crasher @ Nov 2 2009, 07:31 PM) Im now looking at the goodyears, but need to know how short they will go? The Smartstraps I would have kept, but the design wont allow them to go short enough. Ideally, I need about 12" but 18" will do. Looks like the goodyears are a good strap for the money. Will the hooks fit around the frame tubes okay? Thanks for all the input guys! (Besides, what else you guys have to comment on?) AG, Im still going to work on a chain system for at least one of the quads. Those straps are very good. I had a pair for 3 years and had no problem, they fit over the rack tubing and the frame no problem. Now I need to get another set.
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2006 500 auto --- Homemade rear bumper
Trail lights on front --- 3 coils clipped
Reclocked secondary --- Carb slide mod
Drilled rollers ----- Dyno jet 142 main
.060 Speedwerx shim --- Homemade Kolpin fuel pack carrier
Uni two stage competition air filter --- 25-10-12 swamplites rear
6 Uni filtered vents in the airbox lid --- 25-8-12 swamplites front
AC handguards --- Work light on back
AC front brush bumper--- 3000 lb Champion winch
Gone:
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1983 Kawaski 80cc 2 stroke bike
1986 Honda 200X 3 wheeler
Gone and forgotten:
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Tow rig: 2005 Dodge 2500 Quad cab 4x4 Cummins turbo diesel
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Nov 3 2009, 04:01 PM
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Rob
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Joined: 26-April 07
From: Pennsylvania
Member No.: 19674
My Location: Pennsylvania
Your Age: 30
Your ATV: Arctic Cat 650 H1 LE
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QUOTE (A G @ Nov 2 2009, 04:34 PM) QUOTE (swampcat07 @ Nov 2 2009, 04:42 PM) What happened to the ATV reciever carrier? Did you have issues with it? You mean the Hitch Haul type carrier as in the pic below? If that's what you mean... Nope, no issues. I only use it around my property to lug stuff around, I never take it on the rides because I really don't need to carry more than my box can carry (behind seat). Not to go off topic but I was thinking of something else. It was from a diffrent post long ago. Can't find it now.
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2007 Arctic Cat 650 H1 4x4 Automatic LE (Marsh Green)
Trail: Mud Lite XTR 27x9-12 Front and 27x11-12 Rear / Mud: Highlifter Outlaws 29.5x12-12 Front and Rear
Sway Bar, Hockey Puck Mod, EBC Brakes and Rotors, 2" Snorkel, Black Magic Slip On, Airdam Machined Primary, D Ring Tow Hook and Strap
Auto Meter Temp and Volt Gauge, All Balls Wheel Bearings and Tie Rods, 4" PIAA Lights, Super-Bright Red LED Taillight Bulb
F-1600: Tamarack Classic ATV Front Box w/ Speedrack Quick Release, Custom Graphics by Arctic FX, Hunter Green PowerMadd Star Series Handguards
Circuit Breaker for Fan and Main, Coolant Overflow Tank Vented Near Pod, One-way Valve on Carb Drain
60-IN. Plow Blade - Diamond Tread w/ Arctic Cat Logo, Remote Angle Control, and Winter Front[/b][/size]
2007 Arctic Cat 500 4x4 Automatic (Cat Green)
Trail: Maxxis Bighorns 25x10-12 Front and Rear
Hos Stoppers, Sway Bar, EBC Brakes, 2500lb Warn Winch, D Ring Tow Hook and Strap
Lime Green PowerMadd Star Series Handguards, Super-Bright Red LED Taillight Bulb, Circuit Breaker for Fan and Main.
2008 Kawasaki Teryx (Green)
Kolpin Fuel Pack, Custom Windshield, Kawasaki Soft Top Canopy, Classic Accessories Rear Window, and 3000lb Winch.
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Nov 3 2009, 04:18 PM
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From: Big Bald Lake, Buckhorn Ontario, Canada
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Your Sled(s): ZRT-AGLT 1050
Your ATV: AG Edition 650 V2
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QUOTE (swampcat07 @ Nov 3 2009, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (A G @ Nov 2 2009, 04:34 PM) QUOTE (swampcat07 @ Nov 2 2009, 04:42 PM) What happened to the ATV reciever carrier? Did you have issues with it? You mean the Hitch Haul type carrier as in the pic below? If that's what you mean... Nope, no issues. I only use it around my property to lug stuff around, I never take it on the rides because I really don't need to carry more than my box can carry (behind seat). Not to go off topic but I was thinking of something else. It was from a diffrent post long ago. Can't find it now. Oh, you mean the VersaHaul. Short trips I use the trailer. Long trips I'll use the VersHaul, better gas mileage, no chance of trailer wheel or bearing failure. More reliable than a trailer because it eliminates the trailer!
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Nov 3 2009, 05:34 PM
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Posts: 257
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From: Iowa, Maquoketa
Member No.: 37184
My Location: iowa
Your Age: 25
Your ATV: 2006 arctic cat 400 4x4
2009 Mileage (ATV): 200
2006 Mileage (ATV): 300
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The only straps that i trust any more are semi straps. I have taken and had 4130 hooks made for each end. This summer i took and hooked my tractor up to the front hook on my atv and lifted it off the ground. I have pulled 2000 pound hay bales with this strap. I guarentee that it wont go any where. How ever, if i had a full wood flat bed trailer i would also do the dlink cargo tie downs and chain.
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Cat #1 Used for work "farming" "cutting wood" and play 2006 400 4x4 M Warn 2500 pound winch Home made baskets 25' Kenda Bear Claws 880 HID Low Beams Only Front & Rear bumpers Moose manual lift snow plow, converted to work with winch. Electric seeder / salt spreader Rear Hooks for log chains Custom built railroad tie drag Home made fence stretching attachments ------- To Do List Reverse Cam, Camber Mod, Extra Lighting for plowing, Homemade Chainsaw carrier.  Cat #2 Used as a Daily Rider 2006 400 4x4 Auto VP Fully stock |
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Nov 3 2009, 06:30 PM
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Winter sucks!!!
Group: Team Arcticchat
Posts: 2450
Joined: 18-October 07
From: Woodland Park, Colo
Member No.: 21703
My Location: BrokeBack Mtn., Colo.
Your Age: 52
Your Sled(s): trash can lid behind the Dmax.
07-08 Mileage (Sled): 1/4 mile, then lid hit a tree.
Your ATV: 400 auto
2007 Mileage (ATV): 500
2006 Mileage (ATV): 3500
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QUOTE (nwngunner @ Nov 3 2009, 03:34 PM) The only straps that i trust any more are semi straps. I have taken and had 4130 hooks made for each end. This summer i took and hooked my tractor up to the front hook on my atv and lifted it off the ground. I have pulled 2000 pound hay bales with this strap. I guarentee that it wont go any where. How ever, if i had a full wood flat bed trailer i would also do the dlink cargo tie downs and chain.
I am now convinced this will be an added safety to my trailer. The straps will be used to hold them secure, but the chains will there to keep everything on the trailer in an unforseen event. You guys have convinced my to step it up! THANKS for all the input!!!  
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Our club, CMTRA,,fightin to keep our trails open! http://www.cmtrail.org/06 AC 400 auto FIS LIME GREEN. Speedwerks full kit with a few other mods Color matched SS106 wheels and rear rack,no front rack 07 AC 650H1 Lime workin on mods now. 02 KTM 520 EXC Unfortunately,,we have to comply with designated routes,,no more free for all, dang it!! http://staythetrail.org/
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Nov 9 2009, 10:53 AM
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Rob
Group: Team Arcticchat
Posts: 1090
Joined: 26-April 07
From: Pennsylvania
Member No.: 19674
My Location: Pennsylvania
Your Age: 30
Your ATV: Arctic Cat 650 H1 LE
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QUOTE (A G @ Nov 3 2009, 04:18 PM) Oh, you mean the VersaHaul. Short trips I use the trailer. Long trips I'll use the VersHaul, better gas mileage, no chance of trailer wheel or bearing failure. More reliable than a trailer because it eliminates the trailer! Thats it.
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2007 Arctic Cat 650 H1 4x4 Automatic LE (Marsh Green)
Trail: Mud Lite XTR 27x9-12 Front and 27x11-12 Rear / Mud: Highlifter Outlaws 29.5x12-12 Front and Rear
Sway Bar, Hockey Puck Mod, EBC Brakes and Rotors, 2" Snorkel, Black Magic Slip On, Airdam Machined Primary, D Ring Tow Hook and Strap
Auto Meter Temp and Volt Gauge, All Balls Wheel Bearings and Tie Rods, 4" PIAA Lights, Super-Bright Red LED Taillight Bulb
F-1600: Tamarack Classic ATV Front Box w/ Speedrack Quick Release, Custom Graphics by Arctic FX, Hunter Green PowerMadd Star Series Handguards
Circuit Breaker for Fan and Main, Coolant Overflow Tank Vented Near Pod, One-way Valve on Carb Drain
60-IN. Plow Blade - Diamond Tread w/ Arctic Cat Logo, Remote Angle Control, and Winter Front[/b][/size]
2007 Arctic Cat 500 4x4 Automatic (Cat Green)
Trail: Maxxis Bighorns 25x10-12 Front and Rear
Hos Stoppers, Sway Bar, EBC Brakes, 2500lb Warn Winch, D Ring Tow Hook and Strap
Lime Green PowerMadd Star Series Handguards, Super-Bright Red LED Taillight Bulb, Circuit Breaker for Fan and Main.
2008 Kawasaki Teryx (Green)
Kolpin Fuel Pack, Custom Windshield, Kawasaki Soft Top Canopy, Classic Accessories Rear Window, and 3000lb Winch.
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