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Old 09-13-2009, 12:37 PM   #1
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Are NTN bearings stock? After taking all my idler wheels apart I noticed most of the bearings are NTN 6205LU. What is the difference between 6205LU and 6205-2RS?

I found the 2rs style on ebay cheap, but they are not NTN bearings.

Could I use a different size bearing instead of the plastic inserts? I broke most of the inserts (or they were already broken) when I disassembled.
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The 'LU' and '2RS' usually mean different seals or maybe different grease. The Brand name won't matter, 6205 are all the same size. Not sure if you'd be able find one the right size to eliminate the plastic inserts, I've never heard of it being done. There may be people that manufacture aftermarket aluminum inserts.
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What ever bearing you do decide to buy, get the ones with 2 seals. Take the seals off and clean all factory grease out with carb cleaner or solvent. You won't find much grease in them anyway. If there was alot of grease then they wouldn't be able to sell more bearings. You can even do this to the older bearings that are in decent shape. Then when they are clean and dry, repack by hand with low temp. grease and re snap on the seals. I have always done this and have (never) had a bearing fail yet. They simply don't supply enough grease to do the job even adequately, not to mention the grease they use is sub-standard to what you can substitute for yourself. Sure this takes time but it doesn't cost anymore to do it right than it does to do it twice!! Been there done that.

Put a small amount of grease about the size of 5 quarters stacked on the palm of you hand and with both seals off, force the bearing over the pile of grease until you see the grease come out the top half of the bearing and then rotate the bearing and do it again until you have packed the bearing all the way around add more grease if necessary then snap the seals on the bearing until the excess squeezes out then wipe off and install. No more bearing troubles!! The first thing you will notice is how heavy the bearing is after packing it. Just try one and you will be a believer.
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What ever bearing you do decide to buy, get the ones with 2 seals. Take the seals off and clean all factory grease out with carb cleaner or solvent. You won't find much grease in them anyway. If there was alot of grease then they wouldn't be able to sell more bearings. You can even do this to the older bearings that are in decent shape. Then when they are clean and dry, repack by hand with low temp. grease and re snap on the seals. I have always done this and have (never) had a bearing fail yet. They simply don't supply enough grease to do the job even adequately, not to mention the grease they use is sub-standard to what you can substitute for yourself. Sure this takes time but it doesn't cost anymore to do it right than it does to do it twice!! Been there done that.

Put a small amount of grease about the size of 5 quarters stacked on the palm of you hand and with both seals off, force the bearing over the pile of grease until you see the grease come out the top half of the bearing and then rotate the bearing and do it again until you have packed the bearing all the way around add more grease if necessary then snap the seals on the bearing until the excess squeezes out then wipe off and install. No more bearing troubles!! The first thing you will notice is how heavy the bearing is after packing it. Just try one and you will be a believer.[/b]
I use a grease needle on my grease gun and over pack'em. Then when I snap on the seal, it mushes out any air pocket!
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Thanks for the responses. Some of my current bearings barely move, some are rough and making noise (I could repack these?) and some don't sound too bad. I can get 10 brand new ones online for 20 bucks, doesn't seem to bad to just start fresh and get in the habit of repacking like tcat suggested.

How are you supposed to remove the seals? I tried on a couple of the trashed ones using a small flat blade screwdriver and it seemed like that damaged the seal enough that it would let water in. But, maybe they weren't the removable kind to begin with.
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I have packed my bearings, I use and ice pick and VERY gently work the seal lip up in the area closest to the center hole, it has more loose material in this area to work the seal up and out. If your bearings are stiff and or not moving, I would get some new ones. Where are you seeing 10 bearings for $20.00? Best I have seen is $5.00 a bearing.
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Try using a "T" pin to remove the seals. The pins can be found in various sizes at any craft store or the sewing department of WalMart.
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