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Old 12-17-2010, 08:28 AM   #1
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Citgo Sea and Snow.....not good

So last year I took the advice of the guy who rebuilt my shocks for me and started using Citgo Sea and Snow for my sled. It seemed to run like a champ and I honestly didn't think I was going to have any issues with it. For all practical purposes, it would be safe to say that I was "happy" with the oil....until I pulled my powervalves this year.

WOW....what a mess!! I clean my valves every year so at the beginning of last year they were spotless. I could hardly pull them out this year because they were so gummed up. Looks like I'm going back to Amsoil...hello $40.00 a gallon!!!

Hopefully this helps some guys out and keeps them from making the poor decision that I did last year.

P.S. my dad drives an 08 F8 sno pro and his results were the same...what a mess!
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So last year I took the advice of the guy who rebuilt my shocks for me and started using Citgo Sea and Snow for my sled. It seemed to run like a champ and I honestly didn't think I was going to have any issues with it. For all practical purposes, it would be safe to say that I was "happy" with the oil....until I pulled my powervalves this year.

WOW....what a mess!! I clean my valves every year so at the beginning of last year they were spotless. I could hardly pull them out this year because they were so gummed up.
Thanks for letting us know, I've always been hesitant when I stop for gas and some guys go in and buy convenience store oil for their sled.

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Looks like I'm going back to Amsoil...hello $40.00 a gallon!!!
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:00 AM   #3
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WOW! up here in northern ontario all i can get is amsoil for 15$ a 1/4 gallon, apv oil for 65$ a gallon or ipone for 60$ a gallon, i tried all three, for performance apv sticks the less, ipone and amsoil did about the same, not too much gum after 1 season, easy to clean, but the ipone smells great, i guess ill stick with these.

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Sea and Snow is for non-APV sleds....works great for what it is intended.
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Sea and Snow is for non-APV sleds....works great for what it is intended.
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get the mystic (previously known as citgo) full synthetic. i picked it up for $20/gallon recently. i'm gonna try it out this year. it has all the JASO, etc standards same as Cat oil so i think it should work fine.
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Just clean the valves more often than once a season. 10 minute job if you don't let them go.
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Sea and Snow is for non-APV sleds....works great for what it is intended.
X3. Don't blame the oil because you were using it for the wrong application.

Citgo Sea and Snow (now Mystik Sea and Snow) is fine for non-APV sleds. If you have an APV sled you should be using a full synthetic oil. Mystic full synthetic is the appropriate product from that manufacturer.
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Ok, this is probably a dumb question, but I am new to Arctic Cat this year and am learning a lot, but what is an APV Sled and what do the powervalves do and where are they? I'd like to check them out on my sled if it has them. '05 F7 EFI Sno Pro. Running Klotz oil. Please educate me.
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