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Question Buying advice: XF HC 2016 vs 2017

Hi, I'm new to Arctic Cat so I was hoping you guys could help me make a decision on what sled to purchase.

Basically I'm looking for a sled to replace my Freeride and I've decided to try AC for many reasons. My dealer has a XF 8000 HC 2016 holder and a 2017 in store. What are the differences between the 2016 and 2017 year models?

Is there any difference in the clutches and front end? I read that for the M series the skid was dropped for better floation, has this been done on the XF as well?

And does the 2018 model offer something radically different to the 2016 and 2017 models that might be worth waiting for?

Any help is much appreciated.
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Same?

Not an expert here, but I believe the only difference between the '16 & '17 besides color & electric start options, may be the lower idler wheel location in the lower skid. Models with the Fox Evol RTS would hit the idler wheels upon compression, so Cat removed them entirely on some sleds; this lead to pre-mature hyfax wear. Keep those idler wheels on for that reason & add HyGears rear linkage package for not only clearance but for a way better ride in the uncoupled rear suspension. It changes the rear from a "falling rate" to a more linear (rising) rate resulting in better handling/ride. The new '18s have new plastic & the new C-Tec 800 engine/clutching with great initial reviews. The old Suzuki 800 HO in the'16 & '17 is a proven performer & may be the most durable 800 2-stroke ever.

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be honest about how deep / long of a track you need then if you can afford to get a 2018 ctec 800 that will make you happy for a long time instead of wishing you had it after the fact they do have some great deals but i think they should be 0 down 0 finance and 4 yr factory warranty to get em out of the shops and in peoples garages waiting for snow just my 2 cents i love my 2016 cat it's fun

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It's not easy to be honest when you don't have the skills to decide what's the right length. I'm a former trail rider looking to learn how to ride in the mountains. While the mountains here are more like hills or akin to the backcountry on the east coast it got me thinking that an M sled with 155" length might be too much and that the 141" XF length might be the better suited one.

As far as the engine goes I can afford the 800 but would prefer the 600 due to less rotating mass and low elevation.
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Are you familiar with any changes from 2017 to 2018? Reading the spec sheets makes me non the wiser.
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yes i love the idea of 141 with 1.5 track for multi use .1.75 gets close to burning hi fax / slides if your snow sets up freezes down ,so maybe a 15 x f cross country 6000 or a 16 x f cross trek or xf high country if you can stay in great snow since you might be leaning towards a 6000 i have a 6 it's cool but not power wise after riding 7's and 8's it runs right along but if your a horsepower junky like me ya allways want more cowbell you will save allot of money on 15's ,16's and 17's i would have to stay with 16's or newer just because of the team clutch's 17's are pretty much same as 16's with new graffix other than awesome rr 137 with the super shock package i have seen the 18's on web it's hard for anyone to pick the perfect sled for anyone else i have a 2016 zr 6000 ltd but honestly should have a 2016 crosstrek or cross tour the way i ride but i loved the green bean racer so much i had to have it because of the "wood" factor i've had old guys who don't ride / like snowmobiles tell me if they had one it would have to look like mine does . so bottom line is track length /depth. looks and horse power get what twists your nipple / heart all up when you look at it and ride it, makes people crazy when your talking about snowmobiles all summer thats why im snowcrazy

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Keep in mind anything that's a 137 is going to be the slide action skid (used on trails) is a rising rate geometry skid. The 141's and longer are the mountain skids, they are falling rate geometry (for use in mountains and off trail). Hygear Suspension makes a kit that sort-of converts it. "Sort of!" And those are words right out of their reps mouth (2015, Milwaukee Snow Show, Hygear Booth) And his following description he said it's sort of a band-aid fix.

So when shopping make sure your going to be riding in ________ (fill in the blank) type of riding, whatever that is. If your running hills I would opt for the bigger engine. Your not going to feel any less "Rotating mass" they both have a 70mm stroke crankpin, the 800 has 85mm pistons instead of 73.8's. That's all reciprocating weight and it's counterbalanced. But what your obviously going to feel if you'd run them side by side is a pretty good power difference. Fuel mileage should be much better than the old Suzuki. Now I bought mine (a Suzuki 2015) because it's well known as the most bullet proof engine on the snow. That being said when I bought mine the C-tek 600 wasn't out for long and didn't have much of a history, and since then have been stellar. Your choice, but I'd go for the power.
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the new arctic cat 800 c-tek power only. lots of people complaining of running issues with suzuki 800 and i never knew they needed reeds every other year or so wild just another random thought and again just look at various threads and post of 800's not starting /running rich allso

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lots of people complaining of running issues with suzuki 800 and i never knew they needed reeds every other year or so wild just another random thought
To the OP, I haven't heard any "running issues" with the Suzuki 800.

Take it from somebody that actually has one, it runs just fine and haven't seen any or heard of anybody having to put reeds in every other year or so.
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this is getting old all ready to bad there isn't snow to keep my pal busy see other posts above they tell him to stop but he cannot im sorry guy's and gal's
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