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Old 12-28-2012, 02:25 PM   #11
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If it's getting spark, it sounds like you could have a fuel problem. Are the plugs getting too wet or fouled from trying to start it? I had a problem on my El Tigre where it had been running great, but then it just refused to start. I ended up rebuilding both carbs. I never found what exactly was wrong, but I think a needle may have been stuck open, and was flooding the engine.
That's the weird part because the plug is dry every time I pull it out. Has a faint hint of old musty gas but the tank is full of fresh gas and the carb was just rebuilt.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:27 PM   #12
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If it's dry and smells of old gas, are you sure that fuel is actually getting from the carb to the engine?
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:44 PM   #13
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If it's dry and smells of old gas, are you sure that fuel is actually getting from the carb to the engine?
Not really sure. Is there a good way of checking? Removed the carb from the motor and it was clean with no obstructions in the way. Everything inside the motor looked good, too.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:48 PM   #14
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Not really sure. Is there a good way of checking? Removed the carb from the motor and it was clean with no obstructions in the way. Everything inside the motor looked good, too.
I've never had to do it, but when you took your carb off was there fresh gas in the bowl? If you have been trying to start it there should be some gas there. The only thing I know of to do to really make sure is to pull it apart and spray all of the holes with carb cleaner and follow it up with some compressed air. All it would take is one little bit of crap caught in a jet or something to obstruct the flow. It just seems weird that you only smell musty gas in the cylinder.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:27 AM   #15
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You can try a new spark plug if you have one sometimes that makes a big diffrence. What is the make of the motor and carb? Have you replaced any electrical or fuel components lately? Did you check your fuel filter for dirt or the fuel lines for ice?
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:49 PM   #16
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I guess I was assuming that you had fuel getting to your carburetor. If you pull the fuel line of the carburetor and try to start it, fuel will spit out of the fuel line if gas is actually getting to the carb. If that is not happening, you have either a fuel line or fuel pump problem.
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:35 PM   #17
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Fuel is definitely getting to the carb. Carb is an HR109A, engine is the kawi 292. Just did a rebuild on the carb in September and the sled was running beautiful at that time. Tried the new plug and no luck. I'm guessing now that there is spark the problem is fuel but it just doesn't make sense why it ain't hitting on ether. Only thing I can think of is that maybe I'm not pulling the engine over fast enough to get it going.
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Ok give this a try, first take your spark plug out and connect it to the wire and put the tip against something metal on the head. Now pull the engine over and watch for a spark. Try your ignition switch in different positions when you do this. If you get a spark spray starting fluid down the spark plug hole put the plug back in and try to start it. If you get no spark the kawasaki 292 only had 1 black wire coming out of the engine that went to the m terminal on the ignition switch. Look for that wire outside the engine and you could try to unplug it from the switch. If you still get no spark you will have to take off the flywheel and look for shorted wiring or a bad ignition coil.
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It shouldn't matter how fast you're pulling the engine over if you used to have no trouble. I've never used ether to start an engine, and I wouldn't see why that wouldn't work, but have you tried putting a little fuel/oil mix in the cylinder to see if it will hit? Your problem definitely seems unusual, so I bet there will be one tiny little thing that will fix it up right away once you find it.
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Plug is not wet after trying to start it. Spark was non-existent or very weak when I first tried to start it but it's VERY healthy now so I can cross that off the list.

Noticed that the secondary clutch seems to be catching slightly when I try to start it up, the track spins as I'm pulling it over. Could that be part of the problem? This is probably why I can't get the engine to turn quickly and why it's so hard to pull over almost as if there's too much compression.

Exhaust is free and clear with no obstructions as is the carb.

Overall it's acting as if it's flooded but I'm gonna disconnect the fuel and impulse lines to see if that helps any. In the past no matter how badly flooded it's been it's always hit on ether or gas/oil mix...tried both and no luck.

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