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post #1 of 17 Old 05-18-2017, 09:15 AM Thread Starter
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GATES DRIVE BELTS, GOOD, or GARBAGE?

DRIVE BELTS, WHATS GOOD, WHATS GARBAGE
I'm ready for a new belt; the arctic cat OEM Belts are over $200 locally after tax.
People around here (other bikes, mostly can-ams - cats are rare around here) are talking about GATES Belts that they can get locally for half OEM price and are excellent quality, just wondering if the cat crowd could weigh in on this.

Any experience with this brand, or whats better, or whats garbage. I'm looking for a decent belt at a reasonable price; I'm not a racer so I'm not looking to spend my whole paycheck, (I'm running a nearly stock 2009 thundercat 1000 with 28" tires).

I hesitate because I've read that the arctic cat OEM belts are as good they get, and I've also read they are not very good, so its really hard to decide.
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I can't member reading a post in all my time hear that a aftermarket belt was better than the OEM one on a Arctic Cat H1 or H2 engine. Research it but you can't go wrong with oem and lots of people didn't have very good luck with aftermarket belts. The weird thing is on snowmobiles I think aftermarket belts are well liked.


Somebody has to make the belts for cat, so if its gates then it would be good. Have you tried online channels? Will you install yourself. Proper install is crucial, I think a video is linked in the pinned section. $200 for a belt is a lot but if it lasts 5-10k it's worth it. A broken belt on your H2 way out on the trail is a serious problem.

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If you go with the gates carbon fiber belts they are good.. A few guys with can am 1000 run em with no issue.
Sledders like aftermarket because the burn through them so fast it makes more sense to go cheaper
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200? Under 100 here

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Sledder's like aftermarket belts BECAUSE they're (in 90% of the cases) better, and more consistant in manufacturing tolerance consistency than Cat OEM's.

It all comes down to proper fit for a said application, (AND, the proper clutching to match), if a belt isn't correctly fitted by unaware owner (basically a non-racer)then automatically, the belt gets the blame.
If a belt is properly fitted, usually the after makers will outlast an OEM by a decent amount of mileage. ("USUALLY" is loosely used there)

Having worked at Polaris and Cat dealers both over the years, I can HONESTLY SAY, Cat has the least Quality Control (consistency) in their OEM belts.

As long as the aftermarket belt is either Carlisle, Dayco or Gates manufactured, and properly fitted (and clutched properly for riding conditions/hp), an aftermarket replacement belt "usually" out lasts an OEM. (All comes down to those key elements though)

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Perhaps your thinking another oem...

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Yeah, OEM belts aren't as QC as many seem to believe they are.

When I can have boxes upon boxes of belts at my fingertips, and a tailors tape (used to measure O.C.), along with digital calipers (to measure widths (and their consistencies), then, yes, I feel very qualified in making the above statement I did earlier.

It's just the truth. If Cats calibrations weren't so wishy-washy (and could hold to a Consistant production measurement in offset and deflections required, then folks wouldn't have the issues they seem to have with more PRECISELY MADE TOLERANCED aftermarket belts.

Center to center, offset, side clearances at idle (disengaged) ALL come into play. It's the sloppily varied selection of OEM belts out there from Cat that allow for such nonsense.

A truly well setup machine will get more life and performance from a GOOD QUALITY brand name aftermarket belt vs an OEM Cat belt.

BTDT.

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