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Duraflex ice scratchers location - 2013/15XF

Just another ice scratchers question!

I have a 2013 XF 1100 and a 2015 XF 8000 XC, and I was curious where the best location for ice scratchers are. I've seen quite a few pictures, but alot of them don't quite match what my suspension looks like. Maybe I'm just overanalyzing it, but I was thinking of utilizing the existing hole near the front idler wheel, with the red arrow in the pic. Before I drill it larger I thought I'd ask opinions. Does you think it would interfere with the front idler wheel if I reverse? Is there a better location, maybe where the green arrow is in the picture? Either way I have to drill one out, and the front one is slightly wider than the others, so it would make sense to start there.
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For the past 12 years I have mounted my ice scratchers on the skies. More ice particles get where they should go with this location. Search 'ice scratchers DVW' for more on this.
In the past I have occasionally used them to cool hi-fax (Yamaha) and to cool engine (T660 Turbo). In the last 3 years I have yet to use them on my 7000.
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That's where I mounted mine...
I'm assuming you mean the red arrow in the pic. Do you have any problems with reverse/close to idler wheel issues?

I had thought about placing some on ski's, but I really liked the reviews of the duraflex. I had two sessions last season where my 1100 overheated. Once was on a really packed trail towards the end of the season, and once was when I stopped to chat with my brother on the trail and let it idle too long after a medium paced trail run.

I was told by my dealer that the 8000 won't have the same warning and limp mode, and won't give any warning before it overheats, which to me sounds ridiculous. All the more reason why I'm going to get a re-flash once the warranty is up so I can keep an eye on my temperature.
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I had thought about placing some on ski's, but I really liked the reviews of the duraflex...
I mounted the Duraflex scratchers on the skis.
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Yes the red arrow and no issues with reverse...I'll try to post up a pic of my install...it is the 137 skid. Down fall is the carbide tips digs into the skid rail over time if you hook them up. The trail Blizzer brand sells a hook to hold then so your painted rails don't get destroyed. One of the guys I ride with has the blizzers and one thing I noticed is the duraflex on mine gets the cable strands packed up with ice, swell and eventually lose down pressure and become useless. His are coated and does not have that issue. they are more money but seem to work really well...worth a look.

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Yes the red arrow and no issues with reverse...I'll try to post up a pic of my install...it is the 137 skid. Down fall is the carbide tips digs into the skid rail over time if you hook them up. The trail Blizzer brand sells a hook to hold then so your painted rails don't get destroyed. One of the guys I ride with has the blizzers and one thing I noticed is the duraflex on mine gets the cable strands packed up with ice, swell and eventually lose down pressure and become useless. His are coated and does not have that issue. they are more money but seem to work really well...worth a look.
I wonder if a couple sprays of wd40 prior to the trip would help with that.

This is what I'm thinking. Although mounting them to the skis sounds interesting too. Anyone have any pics handy on that install?

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I'm assuming you mean the red arrow in the pic. Do you have any problems with reverse/close to idler wheel issues?

I had thought about placing some on ski's, but I really liked the reviews of the duraflex. I had two sessions last season where my 1100 overheated. Once was on a really packed trail towards the end of the season, and once was when I stopped to chat with my brother on the trail and let it idle too long after a medium paced trail run.

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Not sure why your dealer would tell you that about the 8000. It has the same warning system as the 4-strokes. Flashes temp light when the temp is starting to get too high, then stays on if it gets too hot. The limp mode isn't as noticeable as the 4-stroke, but the ecu does pull timing and add fuel when the temps get too high. I don't think it will **** down like the 4-stroke, but if you don't have enough sense to get it cooled off or stop when the temp light stays on you shouldn't be riding a sled.
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Not sure why your dealer would tell you that about the 8000. It has the same warning system as the 4-strokes. Flashes temp light when the temp is starting to get too high, then stays on if it gets too hot. The limp mode isn't as noticeable as the 4-stroke, but the ecu does pull timing and add fuel when the temps get too high. I don't think it will **** down like the 4-stroke, but if you don't have enough sense to get it cooled off or stop when the temp light stays on you shouldn't be riding a sled.
It could be something that I just misheard when he was giving me the information, but it definitely stuck out to me and I remembered..

To be honest, these are my first liquid cooled sleds. I always wondered why people were overheating, but previously I always rode my trusty fan cooled 2000 440s. Ice scratchers were never a concern nor was engine overheating.


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