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F 800 Limited SP VS F800 RR SP both 2013 Help me choose.

Hi, Which of these sleds is the better all around machine? mileage is a Bit higher on the Limited. I here the RR is a bit rough of a ride, I have only ridden a 14 ZR 8000 SP with this chassis. Both appear to be well taken care of.

RR has Riot kit from D&D Limited has some clutch work and Y pipe along with a few other bolt ons.

Price wise RR is a little higher but not much.

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a girl i know has that year rr it is very stiff but man can ya hammer the big bumps with it if your not a aggressive rider be honest with yourself we dont have to know go with the limited just my 2 cents worth nothing to no one have fun i know you will on ether one
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Joe I have a 2014 ZR8000 RR and I don't regret buying it but I do plan to re-valve the rear skid shocks. I ride longer miles than most 100 mile day guys, terrain varies, but I let her out when I can see what is coming. I have found the biggest bumps on most trails come when you are in the twisties and you can't take blind corners with your skis in the air. A race track means everyone is going the same direction, if you face any oncoming traffic the "tuff" suspension is kinda useless if you have to manage your speed to stay right. Honest opinion, I would look hard at the limited and walk past the RR unless your riding style dictates you must have it. In my case I got a good deal and tend to tinker no matter what I buy, I still have a couple bucks before I break even on what I could have bought a left over for.
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I am sure the Limited could do everything I want and need it to do. I do like the look of the RR and it does have the riot kit and what not already installed. The RR has Less mileage on chasiss but more on motor.

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It depends on how you want to ride for sure. I had a F800 & went to a 13 RR. The F800 was a great comfortable sled, After getting the suspension set up, it was a great all around trail sled. Where it suffered was in the suspension when riding aggressive in beat up or rough areas. the std floats are a nice compromise of performance & ride, but are limited in what you can get out of them. Everyone rides & likes to ride so different so its not a one setup fits all, thats for sure. I bought an RR & it cured the things I didn't like about the F800 from a performance suspension standpoint, but its a very stiff machine. If you are mostly riding groomed flat & fast trails the RR can become tiring. But where the thing is a blast is when you get into rough trails & even small moguls. I go after those with crazy confidence, but they make up such a small amount of the trails. The 13RR gets picked on as an experimental race parts sled that was never tuned for normal trail riding, but I absolutely love mine!

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68ragtop I replied to your PM.

2013 F 800 Sno Pro Limited Black

2006 F7 Sno Pro Orange W/ D&D F9 kit, Twin D&D Pipes, Clutch & Boondocker . Orange C&A Pro RZR Skis with 7.5 Stud Boy Shaper bars, Sno Pro Track with 102 Studs. Sold

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It depends on how you want to ride for sure. I had a F800 & went to a 13 RR. The F800 was a great comfortable sled, After getting the suspension set up, it was a great all around trail sled. Where it suffered was in the suspension when riding aggressive in beat up or rough areas. the std floats are a nice compromise of performance & ride, but are limited in what you can get out of them. Everyone rides & likes to ride so different so its not a one setup fits all, thats for sure. I bought an RR & it cured the things I didn't like about the F800 from a performance suspension standpoint, but its a very stiff machine. If you are mostly riding groomed flat & fast trails the RR can become tiring. But where the thing is a blast is when you get into rough trails & even small moguls. I go after those with crazy confidence, but they make up such a small amount of the trails. The 13RR gets picked on as an experimental race parts sled that was never tuned for normal trail riding, but I absolutely love mine!

Just wish we would have had a winter here in Wisconsin. My sleds have never seen the snow this year..... 50's & sunny coming here today.
I think that's a good comparison. I've never ridden a RR, but from what I've read, the suspension calibrations were way off the first couple years with 13 being the worst. After revalving it seems most guys love the sleds though. You get a lot more capable machine with the RR vs the others, especially the 13 model, just depends if you need it or not.


No kidding about the crappy winter. It was 65 here yesterday and supposed to be in the 60s all next week.
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The front end on my RR I have been able to tune and it is amazing to me the stuff it will take. I have never bottomed it out and I've hit some stuff that I thought was gonna hurt me and it soaks it up like a sponge soaks water. The rear is just too stiff and I can't seem to tune it to my 270 lb rider weight, it slaps me and throws me around unless I am wound up and it's just not possible to ride that way all the time unless your racing, IMO.

If it strikes your fancy though Joe, I say go for it. We really do only live once. I just put a new top end on mine yesterday and hope to get enough snow yet to break it in this year. I rode twice in April here last year. I have enough room to play here though not everyone does.
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The BIGGEST problem with the 13 RRs is the geometry in the skid frame. However, good shock companies have been able to re-valve the shocks around these issues and make the skid work well. However, a 13 RR will not be as "user-friendly" for lack of a better phrase as the 14 up RRs when Cat revised the geometry.

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Well I went with the 2013 F800 sno pro limited, It has 4,600 miles on chassis and 1,600 on new factory motor, guess it threw a stud though the heat ex changer ( Replaced also )and motor over heated. It came with
Ski Doo Pilot skis, Stock Skis
OEM Studded Track 500 Miles
Ice Ripper Track 500 Miles
2013 and 2016 Seat
Stock and Aftermarket front and Rear bumpers
Bosen Reed cage
Hi Flow Y Pipe
Cold air intake set up
Updated clutches Yellow/White primary and 77 G Cat weights.
2016 E Starter set up
Mountain bars
Plus some other odds and ends.
I got all of the documentation to back everything he told me up.
What would you guys say would be a good price?

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2006 F7 Sno Pro Orange W/ D&D F9 kit, Twin D&D Pipes, Clutch & Boondocker . Orange C&A Pro RZR Skis with 7.5 Stud Boy Shaper bars, Sno Pro Track with 102 Studs. Sold

2000 Blair Morgan ZR 600

97 ZR 440 Studded, 01 Kitty Cat 120.

2006 ARCTIC CAT 650 H1 LE.

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