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Old 02-20-2014, 11:44 AM   #21
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I absolutely love mine! It is hard to say if it would be a good sled for you as I don't know what you are looking for, but I definitely feel like my sled could do anything an 800 could do. In fact I like the feel (engine/gearing setup) of this sled a million times better than my buddy's 800 High Country. It seems to me that arctic cat was able to make this "lighter and more flickable" like they wanted.

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Old 02-23-2014, 06:59 PM   #22
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I absolutely love mine! It is hard to say if it would be a good sled for you as I don't know what you are looking for, but I definitely feel like my sled could do anything an 800 could do. In fact I like the feel (engine/gearing setup) of this sled a million times better than my buddy's 800 High Country. It seems to me that arctic cat was able to make this "lighter and more flickable" like they wanted.



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The high country has 42" ski stance compared to 38" for a M sled. This probably has a lot to do with your impression. The 2014 weights for a zr6000 vs a zr8000 is a whopping 2kg more for the zr8000 (205 vs 207). So you aren't likely to see much difference between the m8000 vs the m6000 in the same track length sleds.
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The high country has 42" ski stance compared to 38" for a M sled. This probably has a lot to do with your impression. The 2014 weights for a zr6000 vs a zr8000 is a whopping 2kg more for the zr8000 (205 vs 207). So you aren't likely to see much difference between the m8000 vs the m6000 in the same track length sleds.
The High Country has a 42-43" stance (his is set at 42) and the M's have a 38-39" stance (mine is set at 39). It is not just the width of the skis, every aspect of riding just feels more fluid and lighter with my sled. I know some of this comes from me having a longer track, but I am giving my personal impression of this sled. And the gearing on the M6000 is 19/50, which I am not sure, but I believe that even the other M sleds don't have this gearing.

When it comes down to it. All new sleds are going to give you a great riding experience, however different sleds will always leave different impressions and have a particular "feel" that can not often be described.

And lastly, My sled (465 lb dry) is about 30 pounds physically lighter than his (496 lb dry). And I know the 2013 high country is at least 5 pounds lighter than the M8000. So, he could be over 35 pounds lighter if he chose this sled over an M8000 and lets not even get in to the 4 strokes

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And lastly, My sled (465 lb dry) is about 30 pounds physically lighter than his (496 lb dry). And I know the 2013 high country is at least 5 pounds lighter than the M8000. So, he could be over 35 pounds lighter if he chose this sled over an M8000 and lets not even get in to the 4 strokes
Not sure where you are getting your weight info, but unless you are talking about the High Country Limited ES, they don't weigh 496 pounds. A limited ES weighs that much but it has a battery and starter which is an apples to oranges comparison. A High Country without the starter and battery that the limited has is 211 kg, or 465 pounds. There is virtually no weight difference between the 600 and 800. Here is the weight stackup for the non-started M-sleds

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2014 XF 8000 HC SP (141 x 2.25) - 211 kg (465 lbs)
2014 XF 8000 HC SP LTD ES (141 x 2.25) - 224 kg (494 lbs)
2014 M 8000 (153 x 2.25) - 212 kg (467 lbs)
2014 M8000 HCR (153 x 2.6) - 212 kg (467 lbs)
2013 M8000 Sno Pro (153 x 2.6) - 215 kg (473 lbs)

2014 M6000 (153 x 2.6) - 465 lbs (your number)

The info doesn't include the M6000 probably because it was a mid-year entry. Comparing like sleds, the ONLY difference between a M6000 and a M8000 would be the weight of the engine itself since the chassis, body, track, etc. would be the same for both. At best you would be a few pounds lighter with the M6000 but no way is the 800cc engine an additional 35 pounds. That is just a pipe dream. My original comparison (zr8000 vs zr6000) was to show like sleds with only engine weight as the difference. The 2 kg difference seems to be borne out in the m-sleds too if you look at weights of comparable sleds. If you want to compare sleds with different features/options, I can't stop you, but it isn't a fair comparison. BTW, my 2013 XF800 HC SP is listed as 210 kg (462 lbs) on the following information sheet putting it lighter than the M6000 which I am sure is due to the difference in track and rear suspension.

http://www.storforsvarv.se/modellprogram2013.pdf
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