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Old 03-01-2010, 06:19 AM   #1
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I've had a new 2008 Arctic Cat T570 for a bit over a month now. I've got a bit over 400 miles on it. It seemed like it was the perfect sled for me when I saw it. I wanted a sled to haul my ice fishing gear and trail ride with my wife. The sled is fine as long as you stay under 25mph. After that it gets scary riding solo, and in my opinion, down right dangerous when riding two-up due to darting issues.
There is no suspension adjustment on the sled [confirmed by mechanic at the shop]. The center of gravity is too high. When riding we got a couple of feet off the trail into two feet of loose snow. The sled flopped on it's side pinning my wife's legs under it. Luckily we were standing still when it happened. Twice more on the ride, it almost went over. My wife will not get near the machine again.
I'm putting it up for sale today. I'm really bummed as it was a hard sell for the wife in the first place.
Even if I was to get the darting fixed, the tipsiness in deep snow is not good.
I'm looking into a Polaris Trail Touring. It looks like the CG is more along the lines of a solo sled. BTW I've got over 10,000 miles on sleds. I'm far from a newbie, just bummed.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:33 AM   #2
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I have a 2 up Pantera, great sled, but 2 up just stinks.

Best way to is 2 sleds. Rides better, more fun for both people involved.
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:01 AM   #3
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I think you still have something out of wack when it comes to darting.

That being said riding 2-up is nothing like riding 1-up. Both riders need to be active to keep things upright.

Have you ridden 2-up before? Like I said it takes some getting used to.

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im guessing same as 2 up on a bike ...... passenger has to move with the pilot .... or fail is coming .
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:43 AM   #5
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I had the sled in the shop last week and had alignment, track tension, etc. checked and everything is good. I would love two sleds, but my wife says no. She is a good rider with a lot of motorcycle miles. I told her to just stay loose like she's on the bike lean with me, DON'T fight me and she does well. I wish I could adjust the front shocks and the rear suspension. It is very front end heavy with no limiter strap adjustment. We rarely go over 40 and it's scary to say the least. Driver and passenger both sit too high.
I'll have the shocks tested when I bring it back tomorrow. Who knows, maybe one or both are bad? I hope I can get it figured out. I'm going to take a beating on this if I do sell. I would definitely tell why I was selling a new sled with 400 miles on it. I was ready for some top heaviness when I bought it, but this is too much.
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Look into the rear skid drop brackets like the 2010 tunnel. Sled feels much different. There is a kit from Cat to make this change.
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I have been riding sleds and bike for years.

Riding 2-up on a sled is quite different than riding 2-up on a bike.

As far as the darting issue. You will need some suspension adjustments, or even perhaps new skis to replace the crappy stockers. (First thing I did was replace my skis)

The roll over issue is more a thing of how you ride. You need MAJOR body english and throttle control when doing soft snow turns at speed. Try to lean in and down nto the corner, feather the throttle.

(Better yet) talk the wife into a second sled. (let her ride single she won't go back!)

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I don't think doing anything to the front shocks is going to help you. What's going on is the front is just really light because of the weight on the back.

Does the sled have overload springs? If it does they need to be on. I'm assuming you adjusted the spring block up to the highest setting?

I don't ride 2-up very much, but I'm always amazed at how much I have to think about what I'm doing. When you're going up a hill and the weight shifts back the skis are pretty much useless.

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I realize riding two up is a different bird from solo. It shouldn't be this bad. I believe the design of the sled is a big factor, The driver seat on mine is 31" off the ground and the passenger seat is 33". It is like sitting on a bar stool. I think a different design like the Polaris Trail Touring would be better. The seats don't appear to be any higher than the seats on my 2000 ZL440 which lowers the CG a lot. I would like to ride one to see.
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I know what your talking about, and this is one of the problems with the F chassis, one of the reasons I got rid of mine
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