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post #1 of 15 Old 01-27-2015, 12:09 PM Thread Starter
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Ok does anyone know what kind of plastics the fenders are made out of on a 2014? I have called every dealer in the area with no luck. Cannot get ahold of the guy at AC head office that would know. |The weather is getting nice and would like to get the fenders welded up. And of course the information im looking for on the fenders them self is hid up some ware where i cannot see it.
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Check out Seelye Plastic Welders

Here is the link to their website.
Thermoplastic Welding Equipment - Fabrication & Distribution of Thermoplastic Products - Ocoee, Florida - Seelye Acquisitions
I have one of their welders that I bought in 1986 for repairing auto batteries, which are polypropylene. I can't remember whether I used that or polyethylene rod to weld ATV fenders.
Take a sliver of the plastic (just shave a piece off of an edge with a sharp knife) to be welded about the size and shape of an old fashioned wooden kitchen match, and hold it straight out and light the end of it and watch the flame. Then call Seelye, and they will ask you what color the flame was and did it smoke when it was burning. That should be enough information to get you hooked up with the correct rod. It comes in colors, too. Really helpful people. If you use the wrong rod, it will just pull right off after it gets cool, no adhesion at all.
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i already have the welder and a supplier here in canada. The supplier is a great help and talked to me for a good 1/2 hour on the phone. They want to make sure i get the right rod as they have a good 10-20 different makups of rod if not more. he said he could take a good guess as to what it is just by the description i gave them but would feel better if i could give him a exact makeup. not a job i want to mess up and have to redo or order a new body.
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Im finding this funny and sad all at the same time. Probably 50000+ arctic cart riders in the world who knows how many on this forum. Between this forum, Arctic cat dealers, and arctic cat no one knows what type of plastic it is..LOL

Not bashing anyone so please don't take it wrong
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I found a video of a guy welding what looks like a Firecat hood. He indicates that it's Polypropylene just by the smell of the smoke after burning it. PP has very good resistance to fatigue. Very few glues work on it although 2 part epoxies do work if over-flexing is not an issue at repair.

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urethanesupply.com has information on their website how to identify plastics from Autos to Watercraft. Tips on what to use for repair too.

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urethanesupply.com has information on their website how to identify plastics from Autos to Watercraft. Tips on what to use for repair too.
It does not cover everything. and that is still just a guess. Remembered the local dealer had some newer plastics in storage and went and looked for the identifying mark. Low and behold AC did not put it on their products. Looked at 3 different years and nothing. Only one even had a part# molded in. I used to work in plastic injection and have ordered enough different products that are plastic and never seen a part where big enough that did not have a identifier on it. From what i have been told through different suppliers of repair products is that AC usually changes it up every once and a while.
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Don't know if this helps but I use some pieces of broken fenders that were unrepairable and use them as filler when welding.

For the record, none of my repairs were as strong as they were before they broke, but non stressed areas usually hold up well.

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When i do the repairs im going to be melting some stainless screen to the backside for strength. I have a friend that is well connected into the atv community digging into it for me. Worst case if i cannot get the info the suppler were im ordering product from told me to send him a 3" sample and they will identify it.
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