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post #1 of 18 Old 01-14-2011, 02:57 PM Thread Starter
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Why does Cat make a 650H1 and a 700H1?

I would tend to think that Cat would drop the 650 from it's lineup. They both are available in the Mud Pro version and regular version.
Is it the price difference between the 2? I know one is carbed and the other efi. The 700 has a 3mm larger bore and the same stroke as the 650. Do the engines differ that much from each other?
Any other noticeable differences?
Do they share the same lower engine case?



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I had the same thought a while back. Logically you would think Cat would drop the 650 but apparently Cat believes, or knows, there is still a market for the 650H1

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I would tend to think that Cat would drop the 650 from it's lineup. They both are available in the Mud Pro version and regular version.
Is it the price difference between the 2? I know one is carbed and the other efi. The 700 has a 3mm larger bore and the same stroke as the 650. Do the engines differ that much from each other?
Any other noticeable differences?
Do they share the same lower engine case?
The 650 is a price point leader compared to the 700! Much Cheaper to purchase. That is the only reason it is around. That and the fact that the 650 was Cats first all in house engine they produced. Price difference is $1,400.00 bucks so you do the math. Dont need fuel injection, save yourself some big bucks. Hell it is listed cheaper than the 550 and only $300 more than the 450. Myself I would be purchasing a 450 because I dont go over 40 and they have the same towing and load capacity, but to each there own.
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They should bumpo the 700 to a 750..

and yes they are the same motors except fo the larger bore.

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The 700 has a 3mm larger bore and the same stroke as the 650. Do the engines differ that much from each other?
Any other noticeable differences?
Do they share the same lower engine case?
yes i own the 700 and my friend owns the 650. the 700 not only destroys it in acceleration but with low end torque too.
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My dealer told me, besides the price point AC had a crap load of 650 motors sitting around
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yes i own the 700 and my friend owns the 650. the 700 not only destroys it in acceleration but with low end torque too.
your buddys 650 has to be a real bad dog..lol there is only a 2hp difference in the horse power on them.

the 550 is 36hp
the 650 is 39hp
the 700 is 41hp
the MP700 is 49hp

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I agree with gwc I think they should bump the 700 to a 750. IMO there's no point in building 2 motors with such close displacements and HP numbers.

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I agree with gwc I think they should bump the 700 to a 750. IMO there's no point in building 2 motors with such close displacements and HP numbers.
For $1,400.00. Yeah there is a point! A HUGE POINT!
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if the 700 h1 has 41 hp and the 700 h1 mudpro has 49 hp, the 650 h1 has 39 hp, what does the 650 h1 mud pro have for hp? does a snorkel kit make all that hp?
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