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post #1 of 14 Old 12-13-2009, 09:27 AM Thread Starter
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To all crossfire 1000 owners out there, are you getting stuck more with your 1000 than with your previously owned 600 or 700 CF? I hate this thing! I had a CF 700 with stock 136" track, stock engine and gearing. Now I ride a CF 1000 with 144" ext. with 1.75" track and change gearing down from 65/55 to 60/60 same as the 06 700 CF. I find myself getting stuck way more often with this sled than I did with my 700. Say what you want about torque and HP. Bla Bla Bla. Ok so it is a stronger motor if you are trail riding but this sled was designed as a crossover sled and to compare the two in terms of weight difference and handling I wish I had my 700 back. I've tried making adj to the limiter strap and front skid shock but this thing still gets stuck way too much. Anyone have simialar results with your CF 1000?
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Betcha the clutching is setup to kick in for "Performance"? Try mellowing down the main spring and loosen off the rear spring in driven chances are it will take off smoother and still perform well. This may prevent the machine from digging in to quickly remember your not running a 162.
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you have too much engagement and are trenching faster than you can gain momentum.

Try a D&D white primary spring.

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Clutching has always been difficult for me to understand. If I soften up the primary spring or use a DD white spring that should be the same as adding more primary weight? My engine rpm will go down and should also create more (quicker) engagement would'nt? Maybe I'm not sure what you say by engagement. I'm thinking your saying that I have too much primary force shifting but the secondary does not respond quick enough to get the sled speed I need? Wouldn't I be better off with a softer secondary spring so the power from the primary can be felt more. I don't believe I have a hard start but that when I'm rolling up a hill or in deep snow the machine does't float and I just spin out. I keep blaming it on weight of the sled or more importantly the 1.75" backcountry track with a solid paddle. Seems like the track is not designed well for soft fluffy snow but better for heavy wet snow. As the track spins it scoops out too much snow at once and drops the ass in a trench, not very forgiving. Now I have to live with it and figure out suspension or clutching. I rode it recently in 10" or so and it feels like the belt is sliping at 45mph or higher it seems to surge up and down in speed. Just another issue, no wonder I'm blowing belts. This was on flat land cruising the ditch with a 1000cc motor. The 60/60 gears has more torque on the track but I would think it should also relieve the required force to open the secondary sheeve even with the stock orange spring? Clutching is not easy to solve for me thats why I chose to make the DD gear change and suspension changes first. Thanks to all that post and help out.
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As someone who rides a cf1000 for mountian riding only, ZERO trail, I can tell you a few things make a big difference in how this sled works in the deep. I can honestly say that I have been stuck less with my cf than I was with my M's.

The number one thing that makes a difference is the powerclaw. Plain & simple, the 141 powerclaw will outrun a 153 challenger & would destroy that backcountry.

Between track & softening the secondary, there is no reason to be unhappy with that sled. I also find that running the front shock a little stiff & rear shock a little softer to allow the sled to transfer works well for me in the soft snow.

All I can say is, setup, setup, setup.... This sled rips in the deep.

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I agree, the Back Country is a great track but it's a stiff lug that will sink you in anything bottomless, especially if your clutch is snapping power to the track. If you are on terrain, it bet it hooks up awesome, I learned a lot about digging myself out when I had a Back Country on my Switchback out in Wyoming. Without going through the hassles of changing over to the 141, I think if you just put a 2" Challenger on you will notice an immediate improvement in off trail handling. Power claw would be ideal but not a direct bolt on...I loved mine last year and can't wait to get it back on when the snow gets deep enough.

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First, I have an 08 CF1k and it's an animal in deep snow, 136" 2" paddle 3-6k ft yellow/spring primary fairly tight secondary, it trenches with no base but has yet to leave me un impressed. I was having belt issues but the M8 gearing has helped with that. It just dosnt hill climb like I want so its getting a 144 2.25" soon. other than belts awesome sled
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I do find my 800 is easier to handle and gets stuck less then my 1000, I love the power of the 1000, unbeatable on the trail. But takes more skill amd effort in the hills.
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