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Old 12-22-2016, 12:53 AM   #11
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I hate to break the news to you but your non-turbo 660 is not anywhere close to a 600
I wasn't comparing the 660 to the 600...like I said, it's my "leisure" machine.

I was comparing my 94 580EXT(EFI) to the identical twin 99 ZR600(EFI) sleds I had a few years ago.
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:02 AM   #12
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 Quote: Originally Posted by kopeck View Post

What year is your EXT? I had an '96 EXT DLX. Great little machine. In fact that's the machine I had before the T660.

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It's a 94. I bought it for one of my daughters however the "deal" was that I'll do the work needed but when she buys a new sled next year, she'll just give it to me assuming it's still in the same relative shape. She's ridden before but wanted something inexpensive to do a bit more riding with until she gets more experience. I'm pretty sure she'll not wreck it.

I'm still chasing an electrical issue but I'll get it sorted out after the holidays. Nothing catastrophic but I'm rather "particular" about ensuring everything works as it should.

The little I have ridden though showed me that it's got some "pep in it's step". Went 0-60 pretty quickly a week or so ago and I always liked the looks of that generation sled.

Although I do like to go for some "spirited" rides now and then...the days of banging around ditches are long past. I have more fun dressing up in my period correct suit/helmet etc...and riding my old(but only 1k miles) Panther around. Lots of great comments. Along the same lines of what I get driving my 73 MGB. "Hey, I had one of those back in _________" type thing.
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Old 12-22-2016, 04:33 AM   #13
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Well I sent a picture where the sensor goes , take it or leave it. If you say it goes "MUCH" faster than 55 mph so be it. "Much Faster" to me doesn't mean 60 like kopeck said so it must be 75 or 80mph, and to that I'd say your smokin somthin and you outta share it
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Look; Even the PO stated that he went 75 with it once across a lake. I simply said I had it up to 60 and wasn't at WOT.

If this thing can't out run my 43 year old 400 Panther I'll douse the track with BBQ sauce and eat it.

I'm not saying it's a speed demon, but it's certainly faster than "a 55 mph machine". It'll probably do that on two cylinders...
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I forgot to say any auto parts store will have a guage. I ran wiring to follow main harness underneath and up to hood. Take centre skid plate off to do this. Power came from extra plugs by main guage. I can take pictures if you need more.
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For what it's worth, and I'm not trying to start a debate, I'm just giving my experience with a pile of T660s, 75MPH seems optimistic.

60 - 65 is tops IMHO. Here's the funny thing about these sleds, the difference between 3/4 throttle and WOT is pretty much nothing. It will do 45 - 50 at half throttle. They pull really hard out of the hole, my '02 will pull wheelies (trackies, skiies?) really well, it's pretty funny. The '02 will take my turbo up to 25MPH or so, then after that it's all over. You have to get that turbo wound up.

Here's what's important, they're good machines that you can ride all day not put much thought into it.

RE EXT: That '94 is pretty much the same thing as my '96 except I think your is a single port and mine was a 3 port. The 3 port was fast, you could hear that thing breath in the upper RPMs. It also drank gas like a drunken sailor and ran stupidly rich at idle (AC had not perfected EFI by that point IMHO). I think I would take the single port for every day trail riding to be honest. Those early ZR chassis machine were like slot cars...lot of fun!

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Oh I'm not concerned about the speed but I know 55 is quite doable and that was without really getting on it and in less than ideal snow. So long as it goes trail speed...everything above that is just burning fuel. I think I'll like the MPG moreso than the speed anyhow. IF it only tops out at 65...so be it. Cheers!
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Oh I'm not concerned about the speed but I know 55 is quite doable and that was without really getting on it and in less than ideal snow. So long as it goes trail speed...everything above that is just burning fuel. I think I'll like the MPG moreso than the speed anyhow. IF it only tops out at 65...so be it. Cheers!

They run happily around 45MPH all day long, that's about the max of our "normal" trail speed. They may do 50 just fine too...that's faster then we cruse at.

You will love the MPG, they sip gas. The thing I love about these machines is they don't wear you out. For me the lack of 2-stoke smell is a HUGE plus on these sleds. I never knew how much it bothered me until I made the switch.

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Look; Even the PO stated that he went 75 with it once across a lake. I simply said I had it up to 60 and wasn't at WOT.

If this thing can't out run my 43 year old 400 Panther I'll douse the track with BBQ sauce and eat it.

I'm not saying it's a speed demon, but it's certainly faster than "a 55 mph machine". It'll probably do that on two cylinders...
A 660 has one inherant flaw, actually it isn't the engine, it's the cooling system Cat hooked them up to, they need more. And I posted the pic you wanted for the temp sensor location plus host of information on my radiator conversion can be used to help you keep your T660 cool. Didn't sound like you cared too much for that info, I said "take it or leave it" because you seem to just want to debate how fast a Non-Turbo T660 goes. I think if you take your 650 pound-PLUS T660 Non Turbo, with 55 horsepower and put it on a GPS or a radar gun you would see it isn't anywhere near 75mph. And I don't care what the Dream-O-Meter says or the previous owner for that matter. As Kopeck says 60 yes but not much more. And as far as your 43 year old Panther?
My 47 year old 69 Panther does 30, and thats on a good day
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