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Old 02-01-2012, 06:55 AM   #1
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Studs or Lug Screws

I have a Z1 Turbo that has 1' track. What would be better to use, Studs or lug screws? Studs would cost me about $2.20 each, or I can get 14 lug screws for the same price. What size would be the best to use.

Also, if I got a new track instead, what kind of track would be the best to get & lug size?

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Lug screws look like a good idea, but they tend to pull out and go flying back at the guy behind you. Now, if you don't like him, then there you go.

Shop around some more, or wait for a sale or snow show. I picked up pics for a sled for a 1 each including nuts and backers. They are not the best of the best, but they are stainless so they look new every year and haven't had any problems with pull outs on either sled I run them on.


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thanks for the reply ... I was looking at the template online for woody's studs & it calls for 187 ... I went to my AC dealer & they calls for 102 ... Most ppl told me 102 should be enough but I was wondering if I could put in less, like 60-80.
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I tried lugs once. Not only do they pull out they wear out real fast.
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Rule of thumb has been 1 per horsepower. Do you already have a template for studs or know someone that does? I would pick a pattern that you can put a low number of studs in and that will work. If you find that you need more, you can add more with out taking out the ones you have in.

Also, go to your sled and count the number of sections in the track where you will be putting studs.

For example, if you have 48 sections, 2 studs per window gives you a total of 96. Now if every third row you are putting 4 pics, then you have 16 rows of 4= 64 and 32 rows of 2 pics each= 64. So in total, that would be 128. This is just an example, a template will mark them out and tell you where they go, and how many per row.

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I have a Z1 Turbo that has 1' track. What would be better to use, Studs or lug screws? Studs would cost me about $2.20 each, or I can get 14 lug screws for the same price. What size would be the best to use.

Also, if I got a new track instead, what kind of track would be the best to get & lug size?

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STUDS< STUDS< STUDS.

I've met lots of fella's happy with their studs but never one happy screw customer. (re- reading that it does not sound good lol)

Also your buddies following will get tired of the metal missiles heading their way!

I would not go under 153 studs for a 128 inch tracked turbo. Any less and you will risk track damage. Use woodies TEMP128 template.
1-2, 2-1 pattern - singles and double backers.

Buy good studs and backers if you are going to do this. Do not buy the cheap offshore ones - once one goes through the coolers any savings is long lost.

Studboy, Woodies or Fastrac would be my recommendation.
I'd go with the manufacturers recommendation for penetration.


If you are not prepared to do this right I would not do it at all as the risks from poor studs IMO is worse than no studs.
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Fastrac, that's what I bought. Light bulb.

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Fastrac, that's what I bought. Light bulb.

Been very happy with them.


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I tried the lug screws & so far they are awesome !! My sled starts off & stops on ice alot better & doesn't spin from side to side. I only have 97 because that's all the dealer had left & they cost me $15. The stud kit would have cost me over $300. I have only lost 2, but since I'm not an aggressive rider, I think they'll do.
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I tried the lug screws & so far they are awesome !! My sled starts off & stops on ice alot better & doesn't spin from side to side. I only have 97 because that's all the dealer had left & they cost me $15. The stud kit would have cost me over $300. I have only lost 2, but since I'm not an aggressive rider, I think they'll do.
Keep a good eye on them. A punctured cooler will deflate your $300 savings real quick!

Good luck, keep us informed how they work out long term.
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