Ditto what they said. Right now I'm considering a leftover '05 Turbo...dealer is ASKING $5499, plus any Cat promos, and warranty. It's not the ST, but how much of a difference is there really? Hope I can scrape up the dough because I think this is a deal. The main reason I don't buy new sleds in the current years. Sucks for those that buy new sleds and try to get rid of them within a year or two. Good luck, but I would maybe start your price at $4900....it's below that 5 mark.